Yeah.
Yeah. I don’t want to be on this site.
Is this public?
Then just put that.
All right. You have to get that “nobody” out, that’s under the... [reference to g0v.asia slogan]
It’s not too offensive, because we all have thick skin. It’s just the first thing when you land. [reference to first thing seen when visitor enters landing page]
You land on the site, and then you get punched in the face. It’s not the nicest welcoming.
"Ask not why..."
Exactly.
Why don’t we say, "Don’t ask why..." [starts to brainstorm messages on notebook]
There is this paint that you could paint over, and it makes your walls a dry eraser (whiteboard). Did you know this? [pointing to the wall of the office]
Oh, this is what you could do here? You can...
Oh!
Yeah? Oh, fantastic. Where’s the pen?
If we’re going to brainstorm stuff, we could just...
I could. I’ll also do it here.
Oh, OK.
No.
We can write here on the marker. Oh, that’s fantastic. Anyway whatever. Where was I?
Ask not...all right. (laughs) "Don’t ask why.... Don’t ask why..." What is the page that you have up here? Let’s just center on that. Can we write on top of this? [pointing to projected website on the wall]
Oh, What kind? Oh, yeah you copied.
"Ask not why nobody’s doing this. You are the nobody, exclamation point." [reading over website banner]
OK, the point that you want to say is, "stop...
"Stop pointing fingers. Do something yourself."
Yeah?
You could do something yourself... If you want change, you could do it yourself.
Is it harsh in Mandarin?
Oh.
It doesn’t have that cultural stigma of "You’re nobody."
OK.
Got it.
Really!?
It’s very contextual, you see?
OK. (laughs)
(laughs) Yes.
All right, yes, please.
OK, I could dwell on this or we could brainstorm more if you want now. Let’s just go through this. So the point of this G‑0‑V...
I have a question.
Do we really want to do...I’m just...
"g0v is a decentralized civic tech community." [reading from g0v.asia intro text]
It sounds too academic?
OK - you want catchy a slogan of some sort.
All right, let me dwell on it. I’ll take that as my action item from the meeting. (laughs)
OK, we’re digressing. I’m still trying to figure out the missions here. You said one of the missions was clear here, so where is the mission?
"g0v is a decentralized civic tech community from Taiwan. We advocate transparency of information and build tech solutions for citizens to participate in public affairs from the bottom up." [reading from g0v.asia’s revised intro text]
That’s fine.
Do we want...? Yeah, we do want to say "Taiwan", because we want to put Taiwan on the map. How come it’s .asia not .tw? [pointing out to intro text of g0v.asia]
I see.
Oh, but these are a completely different UI here.