If I am, then you are?
I’m not.
Oh, come on. You’re much more technically savvy on this than I am.
It is true, yes. (laughs) Don’t rub it in.
To try to figure something out?
I don’t know if this is even technically possible, but again we are brainstorming. This is why I wanted to do coffee, really relax. One of the debates that you had with David from Uber...
That’s right.
Yeah, he’s great.
...was that he said, "So you want the government to have the control of the policymaking over Uber?" That’s one of his side comments.
I understand what you meant. I think maybe the communication did not go through, and then he was like, "Wait, so you want the..."
"...the platform?"
I think that’s where one of the trickeries of communication went through there. But, that got me to thinking. What if that is controlled in the...
Yeah, like in an Ethereum fork. I don’t know. Would that be even possible?
Then it will be self‑governing.
Would that be beneficial? Would that help? Uber wouldn’t be concerning that it’s a government‑regulated platform, because they’ve never been...
Is the ministry open to having outsiders from Taiwan creating these type of apps for the Taiwanese government, to be used in Taiwan?
The Chinese learning app. I have it. (laughs)
(laughs) You mentioned in the email that you wanted to figure out how we could bridge the international community.
PDIS?
With an O, not a zero this time. [referencing g0v.tw site]
PDIS.nat.gov.tw.
I understand.
This [site] is in English... and this is...that one [clicks link on PDIS.tw category "PDIS site" that opens to another page]
Are you @chlai? Is that you?
Oh, OK.
17 people are doing this?
Where are they? Are they remote, or do they all fit in this office?
Yeah!
I see. Whatever is there in that admin...
It’s instant? If there’s a bunch errors like there...
You’re testing in prod, basically?
That’s so good. I see.
Where’s the Spanish? Let’s see the Spanish.
Yeah, I speak Spanish.
]Reads spanish text of PDIS site] That’s not bad. Is this Google just translating?
Very good. Let’s do "the business talk". What is the marketing strategy behind the Digital Ministry of Taiwan?
You did one with Blaise?
With the eye thing. It has the eye, retina, face recognition?
What do I think about the...?
Wow, all right. I was ready to ask it, but I’m not so sure to answer that question right now.
The Digital Ministry of Taiwan?
How come you call it that?
That "digital minister" name has so much punch. I’m talking branding here, like hardcore...
A digital minister, everybody in the planet knows what that represents.
You are a minister.
Yes, you are the minister, therefore you have some political weight behind, you have some clout. You have a team. You have some kind of power, and you’re in digital... You are in tech. So you don’t have to educate. You don’t have to spend any time, effort, money in reeducating the people.
You read it, and you already know what that is. "Digital minister? Oh, yeah, OK." - P‑D‑I‑S is like, "Oh, P, P‑D‑I, P, OK. P‑D‑I‑S, what does it stand for? P‑DIS? Is it P‑DIS or PDIS?"
Exactly. You have to have this debate. "Oh, and the website is pdis.tw, OK, well, it will redirect you to the nat.gov...forget it"
USDS?
