Do we not want to create that type of innovative environment here?
Why not?
Ok. So how can we be better than Singapore as a hub?
OK, so how do you see...
No, no, that’s fine. I just wanted to see where we’re going as far as Taiwan and the bridge...
Good. As long as it’s that way, we’re good.
That’s right. How are we going to get there, the particular aspects?
When they hit?
You mean physically?
That’s not what I meant though, but I like that...
Oh, oh.
I’m was getting pumped here.
OK, how can we be more unique? Do we have a way of creating this unique Taiwan tech hub?
OK. How are we going to do that?
OK.
OK, so how would you, as in the office of the Digital Ministry, like to create that bridge? You mentioned one of the things you’d like to talk about is creating that bridge to the international community. Do you see certain strategies of doing that?
You mean vTaiwan?
What does PDIS stand for?
I see.
[reads from landing page] "We incubate and facilitate public digital innovation and service."
Right, you have that Virtual...
Yeah, it’s kind of like that "Black Mirror" episode, the one where they...
Everybody has an avatar, and they vote. (laughs).
Don’t watch that if you want to sleep. It’s horrible.
I’m not here representing the private sector...
That’s what you practice here?
Like TED?
That’s our motto, "ideas hopefully worth spreading."
"Ideas hopefully worth spreading - Digital Ministry of Taiwan." I get it. [laughs]
At least they’re there and...
You have two weeks to finish this up [referencing to the end of the year coming in 2 weeks].
So this is something that the ministry will be making public and creating...
Who will be in charge of that?
Everybody here?
Really? But if everybody’s in charge, then no one is in charge.
Oh, OK.
It’s like some kind of blockchain thing [Ethereum], it is self‑funding.
By the way you met with Vitalik Buterin. That guy is insane. He’s wonderful.
Are you trying to use some kind of blockchain technology to put behind...
...vTaiwan for example, or creating some kind of more...
But it’s in Chinese. I had to fumble my way through it.
I don’t. I understand context, which is great because Chinese is very contextual. (laughs)
I don’t.
That’s right.
Right. (laughs) That’s a way that we can figure out the UX. Even if the people don’t really understand, at least you could...
Hey, it got me this far.
It’s OK. It got me this far to understanding that entire thing in Chinese. Anyway, are you guys trying to do something with Ethereum? What’s going on with that?