Can I ask just one question?
Can you show, for example, what is the amount of repaying the debt in this budget?
For example, in Italy we’ll have big, big bubble that is corresponding.
It’s obviously possible.
How many Icelands?
Iceland, OK.
There’s no loan from Iceland.
How many ports is that?
All this budget platform relies on the publication of budget data and open data from central and local authorities in all the online?
A. Exactly, yes.
When you started already, you had this source of open data?
The platform was also able to, let’s say, activate?
Because one problem, for example, we met one of another project, which is like a clean or cozy project, also founded by the UN. It’s called Open Budget, and focuses exactly on providing semantic, blah, blah, blah, blah, for analyzing code.
The point is that it originally relies on the fact that it’s based on a whistleblowing principle, so that citizens will provide this kind of data bottom-up.
Which somehow, it’s a mechanism that can be enacted just when there is a certain kind of critical mass, I would say, that push other to imitate it with something that exists, but I’m not sure, how does it start? How did it start? What was the original for that?
I actually have a question.
I was thinking about the participating budget and the website. I am from Turkey. It’s not really a comparison with being how many millions of people we have in Istanbul during the evening traffic.
Still, I was thinking about the other question that you really need to have a critical mass to be able to affect the politicians. My question is how many people follow this website? Is it really active in the society at large?
Or any other g0v website?
Something that you said before, it was like, I was seeing all this, which is this idea that...You are saying, “We were able to put cameras on a certain side of the school. The level of violence decreased automatically once transparency was projected in the public space.”
The public was pretty significant and transparent. That’s something that I was thinking about. I don’t know. I was seeing, for example, in Turkey. Last year we had a lot of public demonstration, a lot of cameras on the street.
Still, the level of violence on the people who was protesting was really strong and really high. I’m wondering, in what measured way...I think, the way in which you frame transparency and attribute a set of political band, entrenched in the concept of transparency, is not completely neutral, with respect to the effect that transparency has on the society, were you to implement it.
I don’t know if I’m being clear on this point.
Yeah.
I have a theorem on that.
An example of the differences. I think, even if the cams could be used...it always depends about the power relation, where you set it down. I was thinking, for example, the rally of Donald Trump. The other day, they were clearly knowing that there were cameras on a position.
They used this situation to draw black people away from public space where Donald Trump was speaking. It was a clear political message to the people that was attending, and to the people at home. It was.
Oh, OK.
I’m not saying that you assess that transparency is a neutral plan. It is just that what we make it.
We have some people at home, they’re now asking questions. We can ask them instead.
Even if you want to see, the disclaimer posted..
For the troll, that is important.
Show us the next slide, please.
I understand the issues exactly to the certain stakeholders, or between what’s a stake and in the discussion, and what the participant hopes.
Do you think, progressively, are you able, since you use for example a typical netizen dynamics, to start to introducing a technology, this can include...
...once it shows its effectiveness, and a possibility to actually influence the public relation?
Three slides.
You can just strike that.
No, we want a space in which to have a discussion. These are ideas that serve to...
Probably it could be used. That plus one combination you use in that kind of setting, which is a problem online collaboration. It would be interesting to test it in a local setting and face to face. That’s something, in my opinion, what is really interesting is that it is on one hand, not gamified for people.
On the other hand, it also takes you to think a little bit. It’s not so pure gamification. You are not a fake person that gain points and...
...over creating a fake identity. It sounds to me what we were talking about, the kind of serious game that takes you in that direction. This could the same. Find a nice way to attract people, at least at in the beginning. Create a stream of opinions, and after that apply more classical maintenance...
...role of informations.
I would make free the...
...behind the camera. [laughs]
We had 11 people last time we checked, I know.
Do you release also all the data, obviously, all the data you collect?
They are released in an open forum?
You find a place that you would...
...other people who run their own analysis.
