Yeah, there’s people that are getting...I think they get paid €12 per hour. They don’t just do it for Facebook. They also do it for MacDonald’s because you can design your own burgers, and people are giving them weird names. They’re writing down racist stuff for burgers.
There’s people getting paid 12 bucks, and they go through the names. If they find something like a pork burger which is called Mohamed’s Revenge, they delete it. It’s exactly the same system. It’s chopping the snake’s head off.
Do you have similar problems so that you notice that political discussions, or you have also problems with hate speech on Facebook?
Yes. [laughs] Perfect.
Most of the time it’s not so difficult to enthusiast the public with this, but the problem is the government itself, because public servants are often not used to these kind of techniques. How do you deal with that?
Do you see any threats from Mainland China? I mean threats like cyber attacks or fake news propaganda? If so, do you think you will do something to counter that?
A follow‑up, you used the word "contagious." Is that a good thing or is it a not so good thing or is it just what it is?
Low?
Stories from the future of democracy or what?
The PDF or...
Can you give your email?
Is it on a personal blog?
Thanks for the meeting.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
I’m Valdemar, and it’s a pleasure.
No, Bolivia. I’m from originally Brazil, so I’m Portuguese.
I’m Bruno and I’m studying society and social movements.
I’m Jenna, but if you call me Jenny, it’s OK.
I’m Luis. I’m also a member of the project EMPATIA.
I am Andre, not a Luis, but similar.
I work as a project manager here and I also work with the EMPATIA project with delivery.
I’m Penn, and I’m a researcher here at CES. I am part of the EMPATIA project, too.
My question was quite simple. Just give us some example of projects recently, you came up with this hackathon mechanism, just whatever. Doing this kind of project that has strong ICT content, or there are projects that are completely...
Very interesting.
This is still recording, so keep in mind that.
We reserved the whole afternoon.
I think it’s very, very interesting. It’s the first time that I see a presentation about egovernment and this type of movement from people who really know what...
Because most of the people have no clue what these agencies do, like the Clipper chip, and the Web. It’s important to see, also, if you understand that design is also important.
How old were you?
Did you participate in the IETF?
More or less same time.
I’m ’90. We are the same age, like... I’ve been to several meetings, because I was working in a draft proposal. I didn’t like the way that was. I don’t know what is your opinion, but I didn’t like that much idea, because you have...
I was in Mesos.
What is IETF?
IETF is a standardization where we, it’s where I grew up, the Internet, basically.
I was with guys from Siemens, and stuff like that. It pains me that most of them are there only to do work and business, and go forward. You see what, the old guys, the guys with white hair and beard...
Exactly.
I saw so many stuff going around. I went something like three years, went around to all the meetings. I saw things like people discussing outside the meetings, what they want to be presented at what...
Should we start?
The color is meaningful?
You have to be logged in to do that.
You can calculate it in pharma, for example.
Can I ask just one question?
Can you show, for example, what is the amount of repaying the debt in this budget?
For example, in Italy we’ll have big, big bubble that is corresponding.
It’s obviously possible.
How many Icelands?
Iceland, OK.
There’s no loan from Iceland.