When was that that you started to feel this way or think this way? What made you feel or think this way?
Really?
There was no key experience or key thing that made you...
...think, "Now let’s look at things differently"?
I remember, I read somewhere that your document said you were a male, and then you registered for female when you were, I don’t know, 20‑something.
You changed your name?
I see. What’s your...?
Traditional name, and you changed it to Tang?
Why?
Phoenix from the ashes?
Compared to dragon it’s what?
That’s cool. That’s very cool, actually.
Was he disappointed when you...?
Then again, your English name, Audrey, is somehow more female than male.
That’s, of course, who I think of when I heard the name Audrey. I think of Audrey Hepburn, so I...
Is there a famous example?
You applied for your change of your name when you were how old?
Is that difficult?
Because it’s more common to change your names in Chinese society. Is that right?
It’s not unusual to change your name.
Did you talk with your parents about transgender issues?
What was their view on it?
When you started considering yourself as transgender you talked to them?
They liked it? They said, "Yeah, why not?"
That’s pretty cool.
I can think of many people that would behave differently, so it’s not...
When you dropped out of high school...
14, why?
You decided yourself that you don’t want to continue high school education?
How did you pursue...?
What did your parents say about that decision?
You started going to universities?
Did you have private teachers at home?
In university and on the web?
You don’t have a diploma from...?
From a high school, from a university?
Not at all?
What did your friends or people around you say when you were 14 and decided not to pursue...
That’s really uncommon for Taiwan, right? People must have thought, "This guy’s crazy."
How did they let you feel that they think you’re crazy? You must have felt that people are looking at you in a very...
You were 14. Where did you take the confidence from?
Because when I think of me being 14, as telling my teachers, "Sorry, guys, I won’t pursue high school education anymore," I don’t think...
I don’t think I would be so confident and so self‑confident to tell them, "Hey, guys, I’m dropping out of formal education, and I know that I’ll be fine." This is very uncommon for a 14‑year‑old guy, to have the self‑confidence.
That’s about it. Let me check, because I’m not that much into LGBT issues. Transgender is...you did not undergo any surgery, or something?
What kind of surgeries?
Other surgeries?
Physically, are you a woman, then, in terms of your body?
That’s what I mean.
