That’s your evening job.
Is everything in English on Sandstorm?
OK, so there’s...
I was just going to ask you if you’re working...I met with the digital minister in British Columbia and we had a really interesting conversation.
I think they’re actually ahead. I think their digital initiatives are ahead of a lot of countries. The BC gov cloud platform is becoming a life of its own. We worked with them really closely on that. I think it’s really interesting to see the dynamic.
The UK is doing some really interesting things, as well.
That’s great.
The UK cloud is also really growing quickly.
That’s really interesting.
That would be an interesting conversation...
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That would be very interesting.
I would think so since they have so much IT there.
Interesting.
Wow.
That’s on gov.tw that there’s kind of a membership thing?
Who in government is looking at that confidence index? Is that something that you’re reporting to the higher levels of government?
I was thinking beyond you, who really is looking at it?
Corruption case.
Right.
I don’t think we’re even doing that in the United States. I think it would be fascinating.
I could see that. I’m surprised San Francisco doesn’t have that or some of that. That’s interesting.
Actually, that’s not true. There’s some open government initiatives in Australia.
Yeah. I don’t remember what it was exactly.
That’s right.
That is ironic actually.
That’s funny. I had actually caught that irony of the language that they used. That’s a good catch.
I think they see the open source future though. Everyone knows that the biggest disruption in innovation is being driven by open source, honestly. I think everyone will get there, just different speeds.
I would like to see them open source more things.
Someone asked me why I don’t have an iPhone and I said as soon as they open source everything, then I will consider doing that. [laughs]
It’s a very different business model.
That’s interesting because I lived in Taiwan in the 1990s. I, actually, was telling these guys earlier that the thing I loved about it was that failure wasn’t seen in the same way as I think it even was in Western culture or American culture.
You were encouraged to experiment more, so it’s funny that you’re saying that that’s not translated. I’m wondering if there was a period where it went away?
It became more experimental then.
That’s when I was here. I think it was a period. Everything was fresh, post-martial law.
That’s more the traditional industry here also, so it went back to its roots.
That’s interesting.
That’s interesting. We do a lot with universities around open source and innovation. I don’t know if we’ve done anything in Taiwan, specifically, but we should actually look at it because they have some of the best universities in the world.
I’ll go check with Hugh Brock on that and see if we have anything.
I don’t know. I’ll follow up with that. I’ll talk to the gentleman who’s running that program. We’re really starting to scale that now. It’s funny you say that because someone sent me a translation of something this morning and it was simplified characters. I said, I can’t really use that here and thank you very much. I can’t believe we’re still having this conversation about simplified versus traditional. [laughs]
I’ll let them know.
I will pass that on. Thank you. I will take that feedback.
That’s funny. When did you write that?
I’m sure. Right. I will definitely take that as an action item to follow up on that. It’d be interesting.
Yeah, it’s not that red hat. Maybe we need to send them a fedora, so they understand it’s a completely different style of red hat as well.
I have taken this feedback. Got it.
The Digital Experience as opposed to the technology.
