Mm-hmm.

You’ll have someone writing it down, and then, it’ll go up there?

You’ll send it today...

I’ve interviewed a few ministers in different countries. This is the first time. I’ve never seen it before, but it makes perfect sense though.

Thank you very much.

What do other ministers say about that? I’m sure you talk about this, right?

Is there any case where you would not record?

Obviously there’s some vision of how the world should be behind this. You want transparency.

Just thinking about the future, how this might be if this becomes the common standard someday, five years ago or so, just to take an example, there was a scandal in the UK of a politician. I don’t quite remember the case. But I was there. Something clearly private but it somehow got leaked to the public, it was...

Not even, although that happens a lot, too. But it was just a private video he had sent to someone. Then it got leaked. It got a big scandal although it was in no way related to politics and to his job. Yet it was a scandal. I wondered why because there’s no relation.

If more things are transparent, do you think there might be less potential for scandalousness about not important things?

There’s the case against that, that if there’s a lot of information out there, you can’t separate the important from the unimportant.

Have you ever doubted this system? Was there ever a point where you thought, "Ah, maybe not so good"?

One more point on this, of course here it’s where document who is saying what. But in the digital sphere, there’s often anonymity as an important characteristic. What do you think about that? Because then you have sometimes more hazard of saying things you wouldn’t otherwise say.

It conquers the tool you would otherwise use for different things.

Regarding policy meetings where you are in and other ministers or other people from the political sphere that would prefer to be not recorded, is there any clinches?

Can you tell me how you were approached to take over this job?

Take it. That’s right.

Ask Me Anything, have you rejected any of the ideas? Probably a lot, right?

Let’s talk about startups and the attempt of Taiwan to foster that economy, right?

Now Taiwan is worldwide, very competitive, and quite well known for its hardware production. I would assume that with your vision you’d like to have more software, as well.

I’ve looked a bit at what is being done, also, from the side of the government to support a startup economy. Some support is coming from the government, of course. Some is coming, also, from industry, from existing large companies.

Epoch Foundation is one example that is quite large, right?

Epoch Foundation, which consists of a number of larger companies. Is this the best approach, to have large institutions supporting the development within their realms?

What are your indicators of success of this vision?

Japanese I do, so sometimes I get the kanji, but then sometimes I don’t.

Will it be OK to get those slides? Is it possible for me to get to those slides?

That’d be great, because it’s very hard to take enough notes and then still be listening. That’s great.

We have about a quarter of an hour left. Yesterday I was talking to the Austrian Trade Commissioner. He said that in order to foster more startup development, one benchmark is the 1970s, 1980s entrepreneurial generation. We want to be like them again.

Is their generation different? Is it the same thing?

You can see how that generation is today, how their circumstances were, the conditions under which they grew up, and so on.

You can do that.

Having this in mind, what are especially promising startups these days coming from Taiwan?

I read that you launched your own first company...

...which was a search engine for songs.

Is not just for songs?

Is it still online?

You took it off?

Because you decided so?

What was the domain of that search engine?

That’s what it was?

If it’s OK, I would like to talk about you as a person, as well. I don’t know, how much time do we have left now?

Thank you very much. You’re still doing Hackathons, right?

Still, now?

Can you manage, time-wise?

Wednesday and Friday, that’s the days?

What do people want to know when you have your office hour there? What do they talk to you about?

"Al Jazeera" a year ago or so titled you, "Meet the First Transgender Minister in the World," which is probably a fact, right?

You’re probably the first.

When was it? Last year or so, I did a story about the labor market performance of transgender...It was unfortunately only trans women, because I didn’t find a trans man in the Philippines. Compared to my home area, which is western Europe, and it was incredibly good.